Strange Engine Number

2ad82recon · Post by **2ad82recon** » Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:33 am

Hello all ! Hope you guys are all good ! A friend of mine in our WW2 AVG has just brought a May 1945 WC51 converted to a 52 chassis number 81776543 but it has a strange stamped engine .. see pic ! Can anyone ID the block please and why it’s stamped like this ! Many thanks guys .

2ad82recon · Post by **2ad82recon** » Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:41 am

It's stamped on the block pad HS-L-11641! I’ve got to figure out again how to post pics lol

Kaegi · Post by **Kaegi** » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:55 pm

I did some asking and looking around and don't think that's a Chrysler engine? got pics ?

2ad82recon · Post by **2ad82recon** » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:30 pm

Hi mate

Yes I have but can’t figure out how to post after so long ! Any refresher courses going ?

Regards

Lloyd

Kaegi · Post by **Kaegi** » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:36 pm

I use potstimages.org and paste the "direct link" into the image brackets that pop up here when you click on the icon above the thread box

2ad82recon · Post by **2ad82recon** » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:09 pm

Thanks Kaegi

I’ll log in get set up and post pic again

Kind Regards

Lloyd

2ad82recon · Post by **2ad82recon** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:28 am

2ad82recon · Post by **2ad82recon** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:19 am

Kaegi here is the body tag too

Regards

Lloyd

2ad82recon · Post by **2ad82recon** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:20 am

And re stamped chassis number

Kaegi · Post by **Kaegi** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:54 pm

interesting. never seen a stamping like that. could you sand it down a bit and see if there is more before what the pic shows? and maybe pic of the block casting number?

Post by **wc 9 and 12 owner** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:53 am

From Eric Bannerman

I'd need to see the lower casting numbers to identify it for sure, but I think that's a 1951 replacement engine based on the M37. The stamp is U.S-6-11671

That frame number is definitely one that was added later. Sometimes that's the original number just stamped a second time, but often it is just a random number added to a frame. I've even seen T110 D60 serial numbers on WC-52s in Europe. They just added whatever random military serial numbers they had to a frame.

The body tag is from February 1945.

The frame number is May 1945 which makes it unlikely that the body and frame numbers started life together.

Post by **wc 9 and 12 owner** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:55 am

He's asking for this
Ask for the lower casting numbers below the distributor and below the starter and tell them just in case to clean the frame to bare metal above and around that stamped number. Maybe there is something of the original number left?

2ad82recon · Post by **2ad82recon** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:48 pm

Hi Eric I’ve asked James the new owner to get me all pics of casting numbers etc and chassis numbers when he picks up the new 52 to him on Saturday

Kind Regards

Lloyd

Post by **wc 9 and 12 owner** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:03 am

Lloyd I am not Eric but asked him for the information as he is the guru on dodge civilian numbers

2ad82recon · Post by **2ad82recon** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:05 am

Ah ! Sorry sir I do apologise, I have now reread your post thoroughly! And see where the confusion occurred!
I am wondering now how my friend James WC52 that late a production ended up in the ETO after wars end and now looking at the pictures I think this may originally have been a 51 with added winch … hence the stamped chassis number different font .

Regards

Lloyd

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