CCKW Color

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CCKW Color

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CCKW obviously used some variations of OD during WWII, it may also be due to the location of the GM Divisions and the vendors for those locations. I have NOS CCKW Parts made at GMC and other Divisions of General Motors. WWII Tail Lamps in 319 Lussterless and 2430 Semigloss. The NOS Headlamps are 2430 Semigloss, Toolbox Ends for the Wood Cargo Body are 319 Lusterless, BOD Lamps ate 319 Lusterless. The LH Fender is 319 Lusterless. Closed Cab Floor boards are 2430 Srmigloss, Master Cylinder Floor Pligs are 319 Lusterless. BO Markers are 319 Lusterless, and 2430 Semigloss. Running board Spacers are 2430 Semigloss. Closed Cab Windshield Frames are 2430 Semigloss, and the hinges are 319 Lusterless. Guide A-2 Oval reflectors are 319 Lusterless.
The 319 varies in shade, as does the 2430. All have been stored indoors with no direct daylight for 50+ years, some are in boxes.
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Post by Ugg »

Hi RANGER:

Again, if ya possibly could, take some of those NOS parts to a paint vendor, and have em "SCAN" em thru their computers to get a formula for the color, so we can all share the RIGHT STUFF. :oops: Sorry, just had an attack of CORNBALLITIOUS.

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No need to scan, there are many excellent OD paints out there for one to chose from. There are also a few paint experts out there but they are overwhelmed by all the "doubting thomases" that claim the paint they discover on their radiator cap just has to be original. There is OD paint to match every pocketbook. It depends on the degree of restoration and research. Halifax Group, and the major vendors of Gillespie paints have done their homework. Jim Gilmore has also done much homework. I have many Gallons of WWII 319 OD and one 1945 dated can of Blue Drab from stock that has been circulated to serious paint researchers. The best advice actually comes from those who are long time military vehicle experts that actually experienced WWII and Korean Era MVs when they were new. Lawrence Nabholtz was one of those fortunate to have "been there, done that".

There are some paint brands that should be avoided, but the advice as to which brands to avoid is drowned out by the noise made by those who do not know any better, and protect their use of it.
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Ugg, does what you have cause flatulance? :wink:
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Post by Ugg »

Hi RANGER:

Only on Sundays. :lol: About the scans, some of us have our own little secret paint combos or brands that are not the KNOWN or popular brands. Some of us also have less expensive sources, so with the formula's in hand, we can go and have our secret blends made up. :roll: It's like that blue you guys were talking about before. Again, from what I've read, there are so many different shades of the same color and batches varied so much due to what was available and from whom at the time. However, the semi gloss finishes were either pre or post war, and flats were during the war. Man, is it hard typing with a gas mask on. :P :lol:

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Post by RANGER »

There was indeed Semi Gloss OD in WWII it was 2430 used by Willys and others, it is mentioned in Army Maintenance Literature. It is also mentioned on Willys MB drawings. It was used up thru the late 60s as factory OD paint on the M-38/M-38A1, M-37, the M135/M-211 6X6s from GM and by the several manufacterers of the M-35 6X6 in the 50s -60s. One can't get much lower priced paint than the $25.00/Gal Gillespie alkyd enamel. It is the best buy in paint today. Automotive paint dealers can't beat the price. Most sell only acrylic enamel now. When I retire my CCKW it is going to use the WWII original 319 I have saved for 35+ years. Lawrence Nabholtz had a lot of it for sale in the early 70s. It still will shake up and mix. Most would not wan't to use it on a vehicle that is driven, as it shows marks from all objects, including sweaty hands and oil, that contact it. WWII army trucks did not stay "showroom" for very long due to the lusterless finish used.

PS

Who needs paint with Ugg around? :roll:
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