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Re: 3/4 Ton Database and Helpful Links

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Hi Juan

Something is wrong, probably with my WC57/56.

I never checked the spec number for my car until now , the bc says 42616 which you state is for a WC56.
The bc says frame no. 81667522 and it is correct with my frame.
And now the strange things. The frame part number is 922825 which is for a WC57 according to the Emil Becker book. and the registration paper for this car with the swedish army is the correct chassienumber and the paper state it has a winch and the weight of the car is for a WC57.

Can anyone tell me what type of car I have? I guess it was a WC 57, but the front frame has been cut of, later replaced with some U-beam parts , but there are no holes in the original frame where the front bumper brackets should have been if it had been a WC 56.

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Hola Erik,

Your case is an exception in my studio.

Or my study is not correct.

This is the question.

Erick, you leave me a couple of weeks off and try to study together your case or mine.

I have to pass, that I have the answer for Chrysler and need some time to study.

Thank you and within a couple of weeks

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Re: WWII Dodge Helpful Links and Database of more than 1300

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WC-56 body 4219-8250 hood USA 20175796 S frame 81575284
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Post by Walter »

Folks:

Does anybody know if someone is corelating body numbers with engine and frame numbers. If so where are they archived? Earlier in this topic there is an extensive list of serial numbers along with the reg numbers and dates of delivery, but no body or engine numbers are listed.

Many thanks.

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I have a couple of srial numbers for the list as follows :

81534192 WC55 rebuilt as a WC52

81771593 WC51
I would like to know the dod for the WC51 would it be around April 45 and how far off it would be till the end of production for WC51. Would i be right in thinking only 57 WC51 were made after this one ?

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Hi in the forum!

When I bought my WC52 with chass.No.81643936 (which is in your data base already) I found also the following data plate in it's glove compartment:

Chass.No. 816 855 40, USA-No. 260552, Type WC 52.
Date (should be date of overhoul) March 49, DB 7469 (may be the Daimler Benz repair number).

I will try to upload a picture of that plate.

I do not know, if the above vehicle has been canibaliced and the body maybe used on my WC52.

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Greetings, Heinz.
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Looks like they omitted or dropped the first digit of the USA number...should probably be 2260552
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Hola,

In my study, I want to publish in a couple of weeks, the result I have is:

Attention! Year 1943. Only 1943.

Dodge series wc-51 a wc-61 Año 1943 Year 1943 Année 1943
Serial Nº-Date Built-Body Model-Spec. O. Nº-Sales O .Nº-Motor Nº-Body Nº-Sched. Nº-Date Shipped

816 11453 12.Feb.43 66 = 51 42613 98916 92310 54001 9315
816 13484 25.Feb.43 90 = 60 42620 98921 94230 52394 843 .0026527
816 14530 3.Mar.43 66 = 52 42614 98915 96445 57856 16753
816 17402 20.Mar.43 66 = 51 42613 98916 103038 61385 11617
816 23619 20.Jan.43 66 = 52 42614 98915 85246 12212
816 29405 27.Feb.43 19 = 57 42517 98904 96974 14906 34895
816 31117 11.Mar.43 19 = 56 42616 98919 100706 15376 36015
816 34177 1.Apr.43 19 = 56 42616 98919 105945 16368 36247
816 43667 11.May.43 39 = 54 42618 98920 116155 14960 42851
816 43936 12.May.43 66 = 52 42614 98915 115967 69801 26106
816 54598 21.Jul.43 19 = 56 42616 98919 122162 37970
816 64507 24.Sep.43 66 = 51 42613 98916 137641 84682 17266
816 66187 4.Oct.43 66 = 51 42613 98916 135585 85970 17897
816 67522 11.Oct.43 19 = 56 42616 98919 140934 20229 39261
816 70352 28.Oct.43 66 = 52 42614 98915 142856 89065 38390
816 70509 29.Oct.43 66 = 52 42614 98915 142964 89247 38429
816 80550 18.Dec.43 39 = 54 42618 98920 153895 22880 50063

¿Con cabestrante? Year 1943
With winch? Model Spec.O.Nº Sales O.Nº
Avec treuil? 66 = 51 42613 98916
66 = 52 42614 98915
39 = 54 42618 98920
19 = 56 42616 98919
19 = 57 42517 98904
90 = 60 42620 98921

Anyway, I need more BC, to confirm if this study is correct or not.

Latest B.C. I know are:

Serial Nº-Date Built-Body Model-Spec. O. Nº-Sales O .Nº-Motor Nº-Body Nº-Sched. Nº

817 41239 5.Feb.45 66 = 51? 42775 226806 171514 5606
817 41448 12.Feb.45 66 = 51? 42775 227920 173042 5777
817 50410 66 = 52? 42776 220428 165405 70034
817 57281 13.Feb.45 66 = 51? 42775 228398 173306 6917
817 58876 21.Feb.45 66 = 51? 42775 230205 175155 8245
817 77902 1.Jun.45 66 42782 246281 193897 280


A little patience and I think that in a couple of weeks I will publish my study.

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Post by Ray Edsall »

G,Day Rock,s ... I have just found this number on my ambo . 81636143 which is in the list, but the hood number is different to the one on the list . It is W 724635 .The body number is 4239-14549 if this helps . ray
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My ambulance has just come back from Chrysler as Chassis number 81687980 Engine T-214-163784 body 2, not sure if they are 11 or 77 96
Jeep posed for pictures Dodge was to busy working. Delightful Old Darling Goes Everywhere
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Hola Tony,

I think it's: Motor Nº 163734
Body Nº 24496

And why?, I am accustomed to read the numbers of the other BC, just for that.

The rest are:

Sales O.Nº 98928
Spec.O.Nº 42744, and in my study is a wc-54 ambulance.
Body Model 39 = wc-54
Sched.Nº 81537

So, the body plate is: 4239 24496.

There are two orders in 1944 of WC-54 ambulance.
W-374-ORD-2864, 95 units, with registration number 732541 to 732635
W-374-ORD-6322, 2.852 units, with reg. number 722636 to 735487.

Part of my study is based on the Sched.Nº, but I have not enough B.C., to draw correct conclusions, therefore what I say below is a supposition.

Suppose that:
The Sched.Nº., starts at 80,001 in 1944. Therefore your vehicule was the (81.537 - 80.001)
1.537 th made ​​that year.

Suppose the first order made ​​was that of 95 units. (1.537 - 95 = 1.443), If so, your vehicle was the No 1.443, made ​​from the second order.

722636 + 1.443 = 724080

So the registration number of the car is USA - 724080 .

I do not know the opinion of Divin.

Divin what do you think?. You what number you give the car?.

Salutaions, Juan15






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Thanks Juan, great service you provide. :thumbup:
Jeep posed for pictures Dodge was to busy working. Delightful Old Darling Goes Everywhere
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I would suggest 733679 +/- 100 as a registration number if the original is lost...let me know what you decide on.
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For me no problem ...

Ja, ja, ja... in the future, the paint can be changed.

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juan15 wrote:For me no problem ...

Ja, ja, ja... in the future, the paint can be changed.

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since we have the body number and can correlate the registration number for that by taking it and subracting 2159 (number of 4239 bodys produced prior to registration 710000) from 24496 resulting in 732337 or just adding the body number to 710000 results in 734496...also unless I am mistaken 732635 THRU 739726 are the proper registration range for a '44 ambulance

So take your pick of
732337 (under range)
734496 (within range)
or the first number I SWAGGED based on imperical data...(within range too)
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