Shifting Question

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Shifting Question

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Ok, so I'm learning to pace my double clutching, both up and down shifting, in the '42 WC-51... One thing for me is that it seems like it does not always work- especially going into 4th... Like the gears are not slowing/speeding properly. I am running 80W90 GL5 in the transmission: Is it possible a thicker gear oil might be of use to help? And would a thicker gear oil also help quiet the transmission & transfer case? Everything is stock, except for the later war 1 1/2 ton differentials...

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Re: Shifting Question

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Not sure if this helps.

But for shifting I treat it like a 4/4 tune.

Just a bit of a waltz with the transmission

I was told to run a heavier gear oil so it would slow things down a bit, so I believe (without looking) I am running 85 - 120 wt.
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Re: Shifting Question

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FISCH wrote:Not sure if this helps.

But for shifting I treat it like a 4/4 tune.

Just a bit of a waltz with the transmission

I was told to run a heavier gear oil so it would slow things down a bit, so I believe (without looking) I am running 85 - 120 wt.
That sounds like what I started doing on the way home- Saying to myself "Clutch..2..3..4..Shift...Release..2..3..4..Clutch..2..3..4..Gear...Release..2..3..4.."

I am running 80W90 this moment, so I will switch up to 85-120, and see how that works.

Thanks!
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Re: Shifting Question

Post by June J »

Hi,
I don't believe thicker/thinner oil will have any material influence on ease of gear shifting, it really is just a matter of timing. Once you have driven your vehicle for a while the timing will become intuitive. Some folks are absolute masters, others like me are just tradesmen :oops:

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Re: Shifting Question

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Well, I took Henry out for a ride tonight, to practice shifting: seems ok, but had one misshift where it felt and sounded like I hit a curb! I hope there was no damage, and I know I didn't have it far enough to go to reverse- I just think I hit 4th with the clutch in the wrong spot.. I wasn't going fast, but it was noticeable- I didn't keep trying to force an engagement- that one hit I released the lever as soon as it happened, and I tried to figure what the ???... But I continued my ride, and he did well... I adjusted the distributor when I got home, but a storm was imminent, so I put everything away- and the wind & rain started here just as soon as the barn door closed!

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Re: Shifting Question

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Personal choice ...

If you are not starting off uphill, with a full load, or towing a trailer - start in second, full revs, slow conventional shift up to third, then same process to fourth.

The key downshift is fourth to third, with double-clutch. If you have to shift down to second you should virtually be at a standstill.

First and reverse only engaged after coming completely to a halt.
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Re: Shifting Question

Post by motto »

If you are only fluffing one out of ten changes you're going ok. As Ian says, most of us are tradesmen and there are very few masters. These are a rugged gearbox that was used in much larger trucks and even the Bren Gun or Universal Carrier and can take a lot of punishment. As a fellow I knew would say after a crunchy shift, 'just polishing the gears'.

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