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Dodge data tags

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:41 pm
by PareoWC
What size fasteners and what type were used to secure data tags to the dash of the WC's?

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:49 pm
by Bud Wheel
What I have seen on several examples ....slotted pan head screw size either # 6 or #8 about 3/16" long
The Data tag on the glove box door is riveted however.
Other will hopefully chime in

Hope this helps
John

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:12 am
by Florence
I agree with that, slotted pan head screws and rivets.
Made from brass and zinc like the plates.
A few pictures of plates which I think are original (found on the www):

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Another one with screws only, not sure about the screws on the data plate:
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Greetings
Sylvia

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:18 am
by Gordon_M
There is a general rule here;

all the military truck data plates were screwed on with short pan-head self-tapping screws, EXCEPT the serial plate, which was riveted.

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:23 am
by ng19delta
Gordon_M wrote:There is a general rule here;

all the military truck data plates were screwed on with short pan-head self-tapping screws, EXCEPT the serial plate, which was riveted.
Sounds about right- I still have one brass rivet in my glovebox door.

Which should I have for Oct. 42 production- Brass plates, or Zinc? I am planning to get a set from Lt. Horne on e-bay: they look to be a very nice reproduction, and I want to get the right ones... Would brass be technically correct, or do I have to use the zinc? If I still have a brass rivet, does that mean I should have a brass plate?

Thanks!
Scott

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:16 am
by Matt
Hi Scott,

Zinc would be correct,my July 42 WC-56 has all it's original plates and those are zinc.

Matt.

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:01 pm
by ng19delta
Matt wrote:Hi Scott,

Zinc would be correct,my July 42 WC-56 has all it's original plates and those are zinc.

Matt.
Does yours have zinc or brass rivets?
Thanks!
Scott

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:05 pm
by Matt
I will have to check on that in daylight tomorrow!.

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:39 pm
by Ray Edsall
G,Day all . I think most Data plate are/were made out of aluminium these days or brass . Stear clear of silk screened plates as they can be easily damaged by overspray and thinners ,scratching etc . .Etched plates are the way to go,as per the original ones . Ray

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:41 pm
by Bud Wheel
Lt Horne's :wink: Plates are Zinc or Brass your choice ( no alum. ) ,but he will recommend zinc for a correct war time production.
I recently received 2 sets from him.....and several collectors commented on the quality and correct appearance of his product after seeing them .Some may have already placed orders :D

john

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:42 pm
by ng19delta
Bud Wheel wrote:Lt Horne's :wink: Plates are Zinc or Brass your choice ( no alum. ) ,but he will recommend zinc for a correct war time production.
I recently received 2 sets from him.....and several collectors commented on the quality and correct appearance of his product after seeing them .Some may have already placed orders :D

john
His are the ones i have in mind- they look closest to the ones shown in my TM...

Scott

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:13 pm
by Matt
Hi Scott,

The three glove box doors I have which all have the original dataplate have brass rivets.

Matt.

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:38 am
by JohnnyTH
I had a Wc-55 last summer. And it had 1 original brass dataplate. Rest was missing.

So i used brass on mine

Johnny

Re: Dodge data tags

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:56 am
by ng19delta
JUST to bring this thread back around, I FINALLY ordered my data plates- I could not decide on Brass or Zinc, so I left it up to LT Horne, as the supplier, to decide. I said "If it is POSSIBLE they could be brass, I'd prefer brass, but if they could ONLY be zinc, I'll go with zinc."

Today I received a very nice set of Brass, with an aluminum late war shipping plate. WHERE does THAT go? I am planning to mount my data plates in their original locations(very well delineated where they were removed from after successive repaints), so I think the spot I've seen them in on the later ones won't work.

What is the correct size for the stamped markings, by the way? 1/8" or 3/32"?

Also, just a little definition of fill-ins required:

For the bed data plate, should the date of delivery MATCH the truck's delivery date, or would it PRECEDE it by a few days, as the bed was delivered to Chrysler before the truck was delivered to the Army?

Next: For the main data plate, are these the correct entries and formats?:("????" means questions)

NOMENCLATURE "WEAPON CARRIER""?????"
MODEL "WC-51"
SERIAL No. "815XXXX"
SUPPLY ARM OR SERVICE MAINTAINING TRUCK "?????" "QUARTERMASTER" or what?
GROSS WEIGHT "5250"
MAX PAYLOAD "????"
MAX TRAILED LOAD "????"
DATE DELIVERY "5 OCT 42" "10/5/42" "OCT 42" "5 OCT 1942" "????"

PUBLICATIONS APPLYING TO THIS VEHICLE
PARTS LIST T/M 10-"????"
MAINTENANCE MANUAL T/M 10- "1531"

Next,I understand from an earlier post the screws (for all but the serial plate) are slotted pan head screw size either # 6 or #8 about 3/16" long- Should these be brass or steel to go with the brass plates?

Thanks! And any pics of data plates for detail appreciated...

Scott