http://www.keizer.nl/keizer%20stadskanaal%207.html
Please tell me this isnt right....
or am i missing something here...?Did any Ambulances have winches fitted or is this a WC52 with an ambo body fitted ?
Regards
Lloyd
Ambulances with Winches ?
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2ad82recon
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1944 Willys MB.................Chassis #MB 302306 - Location: Haverhill,Suffolk,UK
Ambulances with Winches ?
http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/large ... 6084&cat=3
http://www.keizer.nl/keizer%20stadskanaal%207.html
Please tell me this isnt right.... or am i missing something here...?
Did any Ambulances have winches fitted or is this a WC52 with an ambo body fitted ?
Regards
Lloyd
http://www.keizer.nl/keizer%20stadskanaal%207.html
Please tell me this isnt right....
or am i missing something here...?Did any Ambulances have winches fitted or is this a WC52 with an ambo body fitted ?
Regards
Lloyd
1942 Willys MB (Script).Chassis #MB 132051."CONNIE"
1942 Dodge WC-51.Chassis #81563573
1943 Bantam T-3 Trailer..ACM # B50604.(Tandem)
1944 Willys MB.Chassis #MB 302306."CAROLE"
Are you in that garage again.? its about time you came in!
1942 Dodge WC-51.Chassis #81563573
1943 Bantam T-3 Trailer..ACM # B50604.(Tandem)
1944 Willys MB.Chassis #MB 302306."CAROLE"
Are you in that garage again.? its about time you came in!
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divingrocks
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Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
Ambulances or carryalls NEVER came with factory winches, and were only installed by misguided MV'ers.
"Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base... The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood."
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Vista52
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Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
When Brian (divingrocks) says Mv'ers, what he really means is "Real men who like Winches".
Coming together is a Beginning...Keeping together is Progress...Working together is Success.
Be Yourself, Everyone else is Taken...Oscar Wilde
A POW is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him...WSC
Be Yourself, Everyone else is Taken...Oscar Wilde
A POW is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him...WSC
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2ad82recon
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1944 Willys MB.................Chassis #MB 302306 - Location: Haverhill,Suffolk,UK
Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
"Rocks" my man..what is this bastardisation....i am looking at an ambulance for my next purchase....trading in one of the Je..Jee...Jp.....one of them little small buggers to finace purchase.
So this isnt the one ...?no ?
Regards
Lloyd
So this isnt the one ...?no ?
Regards
Lloyd
1942 Willys MB (Script).Chassis #MB 132051."CONNIE"
1942 Dodge WC-51.Chassis #81563573
1943 Bantam T-3 Trailer..ACM # B50604.(Tandem)
1944 Willys MB.Chassis #MB 302306."CAROLE"
Are you in that garage again.? its about time you came in!
1942 Dodge WC-51.Chassis #81563573
1943 Bantam T-3 Trailer..ACM # B50604.(Tandem)
1944 Willys MB.Chassis #MB 302306."CAROLE"
Are you in that garage again.? its about time you came in!
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jeff
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1952 M100 - Location: Long Island NY
Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
This truck does seem to have a very nice interior with lots of ambulance only parts. I believe the seats are wrong but everything else looks good. Hey the winch might come in handy someday. Jeff
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2ad82recon
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1944 Willys MB.................Chassis #MB 302306 - Location: Haverhill,Suffolk,UK
Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
Guys is it possible to mount an ambulance body to a WC52 chassis with no modifications....? as i cant see any mounting plates to join the winch to the chassis... 
Regards
Lloyd
Regards
Lloyd
1942 Willys MB (Script).Chassis #MB 132051."CONNIE"
1942 Dodge WC-51.Chassis #81563573
1943 Bantam T-3 Trailer..ACM # B50604.(Tandem)
1944 Willys MB.Chassis #MB 302306."CAROLE"
Are you in that garage again.? its about time you came in!
1942 Dodge WC-51.Chassis #81563573
1943 Bantam T-3 Trailer..ACM # B50604.(Tandem)
1944 Willys MB.Chassis #MB 302306."CAROLE"
Are you in that garage again.? its about time you came in!
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Vista52
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Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
Coming together is a Beginning...Keeping together is Progress...Working together is Success.
Be Yourself, Everyone else is Taken...Oscar Wilde
A POW is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him...WSC
Be Yourself, Everyone else is Taken...Oscar Wilde
A POW is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him...WSC
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divingrocks
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Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
Sorry guys, the wheel base is significantly different between ambulances and most other WC's. Putting a the incorrect parts on an MV amounts to artistic expression (limp-wristed), and not restoration.2ad82recon wrote:Guys is it possible to mount an ambulance body to a WC52 chassis with no modifications....? as i cant see any mounting plates to join the winch to the chassis...
Regards
Lloyd
"Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base... The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood."
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divingrocks
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Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
I consider the SIREN and Winch added to this RARE early production Carryall rather flamboyant indeed!
"Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base... The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood."
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divingrocks
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Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
This thing has a number of issues, seats are completely incorrect, as is the spotlight, gerry cans/holders and '"wanko" bracket on roof.2ad82recon wrote:http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/large ... 6084&cat=3
http://www.keizer.nl/keizer%20stadskanaal%207.html
Please tell me this isnt right....
Did any Ambulances have winches fitted or is this a WC52 with an ambo body fitted ?
Regards
Lloyd
"Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base... The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood."
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2ad82recon
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1943 Bantam T-3 Trailer..ACM #B50604.............."Tandem Conversion)
1944 Willys MB.................Chassis #MB 302306 - Location: Haverhill,Suffolk,UK
Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
"Rocks" my man are you saying i should keep "my powder dry" on this bastardization....?
Regards
Lloyd
Regards
Lloyd
1942 Willys MB (Script).Chassis #MB 132051."CONNIE"
1942 Dodge WC-51.Chassis #81563573
1943 Bantam T-3 Trailer..ACM # B50604.(Tandem)
1944 Willys MB.Chassis #MB 302306."CAROLE"
Are you in that garage again.? its about time you came in!
1942 Dodge WC-51.Chassis #81563573
1943 Bantam T-3 Trailer..ACM # B50604.(Tandem)
1944 Willys MB.Chassis #MB 302306."CAROLE"
Are you in that garage again.? its about time you came in!
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FrankUSMC
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Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
Ok, let me wade in here.
Now, this could be a "correct" military vehicle and not one that has been "installed by misguided MVers".
First, yes, no winch model WC-54s were made. But! does that make this one incorrect? Did this WC54 get the winch during a depot rebuild???? Back in the 1980s I saw, and came very close to buying a WC54 with winch. It was a correct military vehicle. During the Depot rebuild for a French Crash Crew it was rebuilt with a winch. I do not look into the frame or how it was done. I was just crushed that I had missed it.....
As for the front seats, this was VERY commom during the rebuilds after WWII to take out the ambulance seats and put in WC 51/52 seats.
Is this ambulance correct for WWII, No, post war years, yes.
Would I buy it? YES! if it was here in the States.
One of the few, Frank USMC RET
Now, this could be a "correct" military vehicle and not one that has been "installed by misguided MVers".
First, yes, no winch model WC-54s were made. But! does that make this one incorrect? Did this WC54 get the winch during a depot rebuild???? Back in the 1980s I saw, and came very close to buying a WC54 with winch. It was a correct military vehicle. During the Depot rebuild for a French Crash Crew it was rebuilt with a winch. I do not look into the frame or how it was done. I was just crushed that I had missed it.....
As for the front seats, this was VERY commom during the rebuilds after WWII to take out the ambulance seats and put in WC 51/52 seats.
Is this ambulance correct for WWII, No, post war years, yes.
Would I buy it? YES! if it was here in the States.
One of the few, Frank USMC RET
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divingrocks
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Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
As Frank pointed out, if you want to have a properly restored WWII Vehicle, all the poofter (Frankoesque) modifications need to go.2ad82recon wrote:"Rocks" my man are you saying i should keep "my powder dry" on this bastardization....?
Regards
Lloyd
"Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base... The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood."
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divingrocks
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Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
looking closer at the ambulance pictures I have discovered that the winch was improperly installed compared to the carryall. The carryall has the proper short grille and two piece front bumper..the ambulance has had it's winch "grafted" on without the proper accompanying parts.
"Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base... The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood."
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Ray Edsall
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Re: Ambulances with Winches ?
G,Day all .Just my 2 cents worth .Post ww2 power wagons had an extension piece for the Mu2 winch that could be retro fitted if required .These extensions could be attached to all 3/4 ton dodges also . I think that is what Gordon has done with his wc53 . Ray