Dodge data tags
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Dodge data tags
What size fasteners and what type were used to secure data tags to the dash of the WC's?
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Re: Dodge data tags
What I have seen on several examples ....slotted pan head screw size either # 6 or #8 about 3/16" long
The Data tag on the glove box door is riveted however.
Other will hopefully chime in
Hope this helps
John
The Data tag on the glove box door is riveted however.
Other will hopefully chime in
Hope this helps
John
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Re: Dodge data tags
I agree with that, slotted pan head screws and rivets.
Made from brass and zinc like the plates.
A few pictures of plates which I think are original (found on the www):
Another one with screws only, not sure about the screws on the data plate:
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Made from brass and zinc like the plates.
A few pictures of plates which I think are original (found on the www):
Another one with screws only, not sure about the screws on the data plate:
Greetings
Sylvia
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Re: Dodge data tags
There is a general rule here;
all the military truck data plates were screwed on with short pan-head self-tapping screws, EXCEPT the serial plate, which was riveted.
all the military truck data plates were screwed on with short pan-head self-tapping screws, EXCEPT the serial plate, which was riveted.
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Re: Dodge data tags
Sounds about right- I still have one brass rivet in my glovebox door.Gordon_M wrote:There is a general rule here;
all the military truck data plates were screwed on with short pan-head self-tapping screws, EXCEPT the serial plate, which was riveted.
Which should I have for Oct. 42 production- Brass plates, or Zinc? I am planning to get a set from Lt. Horne on e-bay: they look to be a very nice reproduction, and I want to get the right ones... Would brass be technically correct, or do I have to use the zinc? If I still have a brass rivet, does that mean I should have a brass plate?
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Re: Dodge data tags
Hi Scott,
Zinc would be correct,my July 42 WC-56 has all it's original plates and those are zinc.
Matt.
Zinc would be correct,my July 42 WC-56 has all it's original plates and those are zinc.
Matt.
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Re: Dodge data tags
Does yours have zinc or brass rivets?Matt wrote:Hi Scott,
Zinc would be correct,my July 42 WC-56 has all it's original plates and those are zinc.
Matt.
Thanks!
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Re: Dodge data tags
I will have to check on that in daylight tomorrow!.
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Re: Dodge data tags
G,Day all . I think most Data plate are/were made out of aluminium these days or brass . Stear clear of silk screened plates as they can be easily damaged by overspray and thinners ,scratching etc . .Etched plates are the way to go,as per the original ones . Ray
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Re: Dodge data tags
Lt Horne's Plates are Zinc or Brass your choice ( no alum. ) ,but he will recommend zinc for a correct war time production.
I recently received 2 sets from him.....and several collectors commented on the quality and correct appearance of his product after seeing them .Some may have already placed orders
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I recently received 2 sets from him.....and several collectors commented on the quality and correct appearance of his product after seeing them .Some may have already placed orders
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Re: Dodge data tags
His are the ones i have in mind- they look closest to the ones shown in my TM...Bud Wheel wrote:Lt Horne's Plates are Zinc or Brass your choice ( no alum. ) ,but he will recommend zinc for a correct war time production.
I recently received 2 sets from him.....and several collectors commented on the quality and correct appearance of his product after seeing them .Some may have already placed orders
john
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Re: Dodge data tags
Hi Scott,
The three glove box doors I have which all have the original dataplate have brass rivets.
Matt.
The three glove box doors I have which all have the original dataplate have brass rivets.
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Re: Dodge data tags
I had a Wc-55 last summer. And it had 1 original brass dataplate. Rest was missing.
So i used brass on mine
Johnny
So i used brass on mine
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Re: Dodge data tags
JUST to bring this thread back around, I FINALLY ordered my data plates- I could not decide on Brass or Zinc, so I left it up to LT Horne, as the supplier, to decide. I said "If it is POSSIBLE they could be brass, I'd prefer brass, but if they could ONLY be zinc, I'll go with zinc."
Today I received a very nice set of Brass, with an aluminum late war shipping plate. WHERE does THAT go? I am planning to mount my data plates in their original locations(very well delineated where they were removed from after successive repaints), so I think the spot I've seen them in on the later ones won't work.
What is the correct size for the stamped markings, by the way? 1/8" or 3/32"?
Also, just a little definition of fill-ins required:
For the bed data plate, should the date of delivery MATCH the truck's delivery date, or would it PRECEDE it by a few days, as the bed was delivered to Chrysler before the truck was delivered to the Army?
Next: For the main data plate, are these the correct entries and formats?:("????" means questions)
NOMENCLATURE "WEAPON CARRIER""?????"
MODEL "WC-51"
SERIAL No. "815XXXX"
SUPPLY ARM OR SERVICE MAINTAINING TRUCK "?????" "QUARTERMASTER" or what?
GROSS WEIGHT "5250"
MAX PAYLOAD "????"
MAX TRAILED LOAD "????"
DATE DELIVERY "5 OCT 42" "10/5/42" "OCT 42" "5 OCT 1942" "????"
PUBLICATIONS APPLYING TO THIS VEHICLE
PARTS LIST T/M 10-"????"
MAINTENANCE MANUAL T/M 10- "1531"
Next,I understand from an earlier post the screws (for all but the serial plate) are slotted pan head screw size either # 6 or #8 about 3/16" long- Should these be brass or steel to go with the brass plates?
Thanks! And any pics of data plates for detail appreciated...
Scott
Today I received a very nice set of Brass, with an aluminum late war shipping plate. WHERE does THAT go? I am planning to mount my data plates in their original locations(very well delineated where they were removed from after successive repaints), so I think the spot I've seen them in on the later ones won't work.
What is the correct size for the stamped markings, by the way? 1/8" or 3/32"?
Also, just a little definition of fill-ins required:
For the bed data plate, should the date of delivery MATCH the truck's delivery date, or would it PRECEDE it by a few days, as the bed was delivered to Chrysler before the truck was delivered to the Army?
Next: For the main data plate, are these the correct entries and formats?:("????" means questions)
NOMENCLATURE "WEAPON CARRIER""?????"
MODEL "WC-51"
SERIAL No. "815XXXX"
SUPPLY ARM OR SERVICE MAINTAINING TRUCK "?????" "QUARTERMASTER" or what?
GROSS WEIGHT "5250"
MAX PAYLOAD "????"
MAX TRAILED LOAD "????"
DATE DELIVERY "5 OCT 42" "10/5/42" "OCT 42" "5 OCT 1942" "????"
PUBLICATIONS APPLYING TO THIS VEHICLE
PARTS LIST T/M 10-"????"
MAINTENANCE MANUAL T/M 10- "1531"
Next,I understand from an earlier post the screws (for all but the serial plate) are slotted pan head screw size either # 6 or #8 about 3/16" long- Should these be brass or steel to go with the brass plates?
Thanks! And any pics of data plates for detail appreciated...
Scott
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2003 Ford P-71 exFHP
1967 Ford Galaxie 500 fastback